reply to sunrise
September 30, 2012 6:24:04 PM UTC Post #1

Sorry bout that .didnt mean to cause a tiff!I am having problems with my tablet or your server.The signal in a lot of these motels will drop and I cant tell if I posted.I just had time before the next race and that doesnt happen often.I sure didnt mean to pee you or anybody off.I see by the screen you sent and totally get the idea of the spam remark.I never had to be chastised before and its kinda embarrasing bud.But I have been popped by some REAL big dogs so I can live with this(just digging at you hoss).So,put your big boy pants on,dig your drawers out of your crack grab a favorite beverage and watch one of the Hendrick boys show you how we roll today.Seriously no problem sunrise,I will behave and to show you no hard feelings Ill have you and a guest at Daytona free next year.Contact me and I will get you the info you need to set it up.And last but not least you can kiss my old ass.........he is tied behind my race shop.lol!


October 01, 2012 3:23:36 AM UTC Post #1

Hmmmm......on second thought the how the Hendrick boys roll smart arse comment doesnt seem as witty right now.By the way my wife seems to be in agreement.I talk too much when I get excited about something and she suggested I apologise for being too sarcastic too soon.Since the old forum we started went South I accumulated a lot of things to say.There were a lot of good friends we made on Skynyrd Dixie.We had a bunch of Skynyrd and Nascar folks on our forums and it is sad it came down to a power struggle killing it.It brought people from all over the states and at least 3 continents together in Jacksonville annually for many years.I realise the family we had and the feeling of knowing each other so well took some time to mercurialise.You folks have this same dynamic and it has been a bond formed over time.I enjoy doing things and giving other people help and tend to dive in full force when people do not know how to react.They need to see if you are for real.20 years of being responsible for P.R.in a sports franchise and over 30 years of it in racing makes you highly motivated and kind of pushy. It may seem I am self centered or bragg about things and people dislike that quality.I do too.Didnt mean to try to overthrow the government so to speak.Well ,wife isnt looking ovet my shoulder.Apologise? Forget that...I am the smoothest,smartest guy on the block sunrise and it aint braggin if you can back it up!

October 01, 2012 4:01:43 AM UTC Post #2

=rracingg04 said:...Since the old forum we started went South I accumulated a lot of things to say.There were a lot of good friends we made on Skynyrd Dixie.We had a bunch of Skynyrd and Nascar folks on our forums and it is sad it came down to a power struggle killing it.


Power struggle? I guess that is one way of looking at it, but the real deal behind that dixie forum was a fraud. It claimed Gene Odom was a member and posting there and come to find out he was never on that site. Gene does not use computers and he don't type. Someone who was using Gene and old coach for promoting their race team was behind it all the way to the end when everyone found out Gene Odom was not a part of the site and the moderators were lying saying he was and they got caught. Also it went to crap when some people from another forum took it over and was secretly getting members IP addresses from moderators Tim Harney aka Little red rooster and skyndeep who no one liked or respected at all. Over 100 members left the site and just stopped posting. And a Skynyrd plane crash survivor and former Skynyrd band manager was mistreated by biased moderators brought on rumors of possible legal action and it was shut down without warning to anyone.

October 01, 2012 4:08:23 PM UTC Post #3

I disasociated myself after Billy Webb brought that truck team into the mix.I am thinking this is the race team you are mentioning.It had a pretty good guy from The Rockingham area,Billys old hometown, involved in it.Larry suffers from VERY bad health.I did not get invited to play with these boys ,and,at the time was a little hurt.Gene was a very close family friend of ours.My family and friends did a lot of benefits for he and his grandson.Each time I spoke to any Skynyrd members from their and Genes old neighborhood,or anyone else that knew Gene,they warned me that things were not what they seemed.I always put it down to jealousy.I put Gene and his book on one of the Arena Racing teams we owned for an entire season.This sponsorship was worth 10 to 25k for a year.We also owned the Lynyrd Skynyrd/Allen Collins Tribute car that Artimus committed to drive with Kyle Busch.Artimus backed out after I helped pay for the new album,Artimus Venemous.If you look at the aLbum credits he thanks us there.We asked not to have our names included because of a conflict of interest and not wanting people to know I had put money into it.I gave him the trailer he pulls his band equipment around in to show him no hard feelings.My daughter gave River a new four wheeler so he and Artimus could ride.It was around that time that we got pretty involved with Cup and also my sons racing career.I just drifted away from the site.People started coming around telling me that money had not been used for the things we donted it to.The last event Billy and I were involved in was the 30 year anniversary.Gene does not own a computer.He would actually phone his stories in to some new moderator and they would put them up.I was told by Billy he sold the site as he planned to move home,which he has.Understand I loved Gene and really thought we were doing good things for his family.He spent months out of 5 years or so staying in Condos and driving my families truck and cars all over the country.I gave him autographed guitars four wheelers gold records etc.,today he has nothing I or any friends gave him.Billy and a hundred other people tried to tell me he was doing this and I was an idiot.He sold it for little or nothing.He lives with his daughter ans son in law.I still talk to him but do not fall for his investments anymore.That led to me not seeing him for a year at a time.I bought a Ferrari a few years back from a collection in Fern Park.Genes son in law brought it to me in S.C. and when I opened the trailer they broke the right mirror shell.I sent money for the trailer and insured it through them.They got a $500.00 cheaper trailer with no insurance.VIP has brought dozens of motorcycles to me and cars so its usually$500-800 one way.It ended up over 2k.The final event was during the RRHOF.He asked me to get a guitar autographed by the Skynyrd boys.He sat inthe lobby and waited several hours with Billy Webb.I would never lug it around during the ceremony and it was not the proper time anyway.When we got to the lobby he flipped out in front of literally hundreds of the people and trashed me for not getting it done then.He embarrased us and looked like an idiot.He was upset that my wife and I payed JoJo and Leslies seating fees and that Artimus and I had not asked Larkin Sr to let him attend. Les will tell you today that they thought they were just going as honorees.They did not know untill the soundcheck they were performing.I did not find out who the new moderator was and got Willie and Ray Evernham off after they got hit for money.I do not remember the driver of the truck but I do not think they ever won a race.People from the old site were not bad people,they got duped by greed.Gene sold some poor soul a microphone he sold me for a $1000.00.It came to me from Kent Griffith through Gene.It was in an old road case of Allens.He brought it to me the day they left for N.Y. in 06 as they needed money for gas and rooms.I kept it for four years or so and actually gave it back to Gene cause he was so broke.He sold it to some fan and told them it was more than likely the last mike Ronnie used!This was during one of those bus tour deals.I know this is too long but one more,I bought Ronnies Street Survivor hat from him for several grand.I never got anything other than his word it was legit.He promised me a letter notarised.Ha!I GAVE IT BACK TO HIM! NO MONEY! He sold it again to another victim that I believe is named Robbin .My wife was talking to the wives and Judy told her in N Y she didnt have the heart to tell me I got suckered.I did these things myself,no one made me.I am a 54 year old dumbass.Now I realise why the site turned out to be a waste of time and my initial funding.I am still friends with Billy and hate to ask him if he has been lying to me.His wife kind of played into his backing off as well.I dont think he had involvement in the last couple of years.He told me he sold it as Gene didnt come around when he stopped putting money into the items they sold.I wonder where they were getting their stuff from.There was a sweet girl ,last name of Graham that Gene also used for money.Oh well,wonders never cease.

October 01, 2012 6:05:14 PM UTC Post #4

rracingg04 look at the top of this page and check your inbox for a PM message. Long time no hear! I know who you are now.

October 03, 2012 12:40:12 AM UTC Post #5

rracingg, if you want to make a thread on Skynyrd - go right ahead. We just don't need 10 posts - all small topics (or talking about the same thing over and over) flooding the board.

And please don't entitle a thread as an apology to me and then proceed to talk NASCAR on it. I can't stand NASCAR. Not everyone enjoys people driving around in circles. You're more than welcome to start a NASCAR thread and have other people on here talk with you about it. That's cool. It's what you're into. I get that. But I came on to see what the thread was about and I read about a bunch of people who I have no idea who they are, nor honestly care.

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